Skillnaden mellan lasrar

Jag har en OMG hjälm och fick erbjudan av att köpa en pulserande “laser-hjälm”. Skillnaden är att den pulserande tränger djupare i huden och på ngt sätt nästan maserar scalpen lite lätt. Men jag köpte den inte. Man kan alltid köpa till den i efterhand om de behövs. Det finns inte i själva lasern utan ngt man kopplar in senare om man vill . Kan säga att OMG är riktigt bra, redan efter 1 vecka. Känner att håret/huden är friskare och starkare.

Du väljer själv antalet lasrar på din hjälm, jag har 300. Min gick på 8500 allt som allt. Dollarn är ganska svag nu. Vill du ha den pulserande får du punga upp med ytterligare 1500-2000 kr. Man kan dock köpa den i efterhand. Min täcker vikarna och toppen av huvudet men det finns plats för fler lasrar och då gör jag bara en enkel beställning av JOHN och han visar genom skype hur man ska koppla och så. Skit bra service och jag skulle lätt köpa en OMG alla dagar i veckan. Tror alla på detta forum håller med.

nitro: Båda funkar då de levererar tillräckliga mängder laserljus. Utan att exakt veta utgår jag ifrån att lasercapen är betydligt enklare att resa med och tordes väga mindre på huvudet, medan OMGs innehåller fler laserkällor och är klart billigare.

erik_nitro wrote: Fick detta meddelande från John men vill ändå höra vad ni tkr om detta, spec “gudfadern” på detta forum självaste Whyatt :D

Ok, as far as using the helmet for 20 minutes and the people that say it’s “overkill”, EVERY SINGLE TIME I’m looked into this, I’ve found that their helmets have had some bad diodes that were really HOT. So, THAT was the reason that they were saying this! 20 minutes is not overkill –it’s exactly where you want to be!!!

I actually have a LONG bit of usage information that I send out when I ship peoples helmets, and I’m going to give it to you now. I’ll send it to you again after I ship the helmet, too. Anyway, here it is:

Ok, let’s talk about actually USING the helmet! I know that this is going to be a lot if info here, but try to bear with me and actually read what I’m saying because it can make a big difference. There are two ways to general ways to do it -the “old way” and the “new way”. Both are effective, but the “old way” can sometimes overly dry your scalp. I’ll go into each, but let me tell you two things that you should buy that will help you immensely with laser therapy (the first two are VERY CHEAP and each will last a long, long time, and the third one is a little more expensive but I’ve figured out how to prolong the life to many months if not longer):

1) Polysorbate 80 – You want pure polysorbate 80 (it’s ok if it has niacin and biotin in it, but you’ll still want to get niacin as well -the next ingredient). You can go to Amazon and type in “Polysorbate 80”, and you’ll see a lot of brands (NOT the shampoos). Polysorbate 80 is used BEFORE a shower. Put it on your head, let it sit for at least 20 minutes, and then wash it out in the shower. Polysorbate 80 has been shown ON ITS OWN to help hair loss. All it does is help to remove sebum from in/around the follicle better than shampooing alone (and sebum contains excess DHT and gunk that can clog up your follicle).

What I do is this… I mix it 50/50 with ethyl alcohol (not isopropyl because that’s too harsh) and put it into a dropper bottle. The reason I do this is because polysorbate 80 is kind of hard to spread around on your head, and I feel that alcohol helps it penetrate into the scalp much deeper. HOWEVER… some people have a hard time finding ethyl alcohol, and it’s even BANNED in some parts of the world because they’re afraid kids will buy it to get drunk. So, you can mix it with water -but sometimes right at first it will react strangely and “gunk up”, but allegedly if you let it sit for a while, it will return to a more liquidy state.

You NEED polysorbate 80, though. I feel that it is crucial for success. Some oils actually enhance laser penetration, but sebum/itchy scalp oil ISN’T ONE OF THEM! So, remove as much as you can. Oh, by the way, there are many things that you can use polysorbate 80 for with making your own hair loss topicals. Its primary purpose is mixing oil with water.

2) Niacin – (not niacinimide, and not the non-flushing kind. You WANT the flush) You can buy capsules in most any drugstore of niacin, and then just pull them apart. I bought a container of pure niacin powder from here:http://purebulk.com/niacin-usp…and it’s going to last for YEARS. Using niacin has been used in laser therapy treatments for years. The concept is simply that since niacin is a vasodilator, laser therapy is going to be much more effective for the tissue since more blood is getting to the capillaries. There is documentation out there that shows increased effectiveness as well, so it’s definitely something to do.

What I do is this… I mix it into a squirt bottle of water. I think I use about a tablespoon in eight ounces, but I might not be correct on that -what I do is mostly look for residue. Only so much will dissolve into the water, so as soon as I hit that point, I stop adding niacin! You’re only going to use a few squirts, so don’t worry about getting too much niacin -that squirt bottle will probably last you months, so you’re spreading out that dose over a long period of time.

I’ll wet my hair with it and massage it in about 10 minutes before laser therapy so it can start taking effect. I often will squirt it again right before I use the helmet (because damp skin in better, and I’ll explain why in a minute).

If you google this, by the way, you’ll find that niacin mixed with water is a successful treatment for treating acne, and some findings have linked hair loss with acne so this would be an added benefit here all on it’s own.

3) Emu Oil – Any brand. You’ll never get a straight answer as to which brand is best, and there are factions fighting each other as to which method of distilling it is better. Here is the truth, though… emu oil is the best penetrating oil there is, and it can actually penetrate through all of your skin layers.

Dry skin reflects laser energy, and hydrated skin absorbs more laser energy (think of tanning with suntan lotion vs. tanning without suntan lotion). Some oils can obviously block it, but emu doesn’t.

Now, I don’t know which I hate more… the thickness of emu oil, or the COST! So, I thin it out! I mix it with water, and I put it into another spray bottle. The problem? Those don’t like to mix AT ALL. So, I put in some polysorbate 80. The polysorbate 80 doesn’t hold it together for long, but if you shake it vigorously right before you spray it, it will keep it together long enough to spray it on your head! Without the polysorbate 80, I could see them separating almost instantly, so you need to use it.

I also put a splash of ethyl alcohol in this, too, but I don’t think it’s really necessary. I do keep the niacin/water in a separate spray bottle than the emu/water/poly 80/ethyl alcohol simply because I don’t want anything to destabilize the niacin, and sometimes I want to spray the niacin on my head without the emu because I feel that there are benefits to that.

Thinning it out makes it MUCH BETTER for me to use. Not only do I get much less residue on the helmet, it should last MUCH LONGER. I got the idea for thinning it out because of “Blue Emu” pain relief ointment. I used some, and saw right on the container that they had a 7% emu oil formulation. I started thinking “If 7% is enough to carry all of those ingredients through the skin, then why am I putting 100% on my head?!”. So, I thinned it out some, and now I can just spray four or five times and my head is covered with it.

Ok, so now that we’ve covered that, let’s talk about actually USING THE HELMET!

OLD WAY: I used to always say that the IDEAL way to use it is to first use the polysorbate 80 (with ethyl alcohol if you can find it), take a shower with non-SLS (sodium lauryl sulfate) shampoo -any shampoo geared for hair loss is probably SLS free and fine. Really scrub your head with your fingernails! Then, towel dry your hair, and use the helmet while your hair is still damp. Your hair and scalp doesn’t have to be really wet, but you’ll want to use the helmet while your head still has that “shower fresh feeling”. Use the helmet for 20 minutes -no more, no less!

The reasoning behind taking a shower beforehand is because 1) sebum and gunk can block LLLT, and 2) BONE DRY SKIN can reflect laser energy right off of the surface of the skin! Those are two very good reasons!

NEW WAY: This “new way” evolved because I always knew that using some ingredients on the scalp right before you use the helmet can improve laser therapy -specifically a non-blocking oil and niacin. So why didn’t I use those two things from the beginning? Because I didn’t want to take TWO SHOWERS in a row! If I did it that way, I’d have to put the polysorbate 80 in, wait 20 minutes, take a shower, spray the niacin on, spray the emu oil on, let it start taking effect, use the helmet, then shower it out! That’s a long time, and a real pain in the rear and one of the keys to success with anything is making it easy enough to stick with it.

So, I experimented around and found that as long as your hair isn’t mega-greasy, you can skip the first shower and still get pretty much the same stimulation. I try to take a shower the night before (and use the polysorbate 80 then, of course), though.

Here is what I do… I spray the niacin on my head FIRST and massage it in a little. I then spray the emu oil on and massage that in. This should help the niacin penetrate all throughout the skin, too. I wait about 10 minutes or so, and if my hair is dry again, I’ll go back and spray a blast of niacin again just to re-dampen my scalp.

Then, you use the helmet for 20 minutes, and take a shower to shower out the emu (you can leave it on for as long as you want, though -it’s allegedly really good for fighting hair loss on its own).

I have an older thread on all of this here:http://www.worldhairloss.org/index.php/forums/viewthread/680/#5612 (that’s in the middle of the thread, and you can start at the top after you read that post for the “evolution” of this). This is all pretty new and a few others are trying it this way, and so far I like it and think it would be more promising. I can’t be 100% sure, though! So, either go the “old ideal” way or the new “pre-laser topical” way -but don’t just stick the helmet on your head. Do one of the two! Anyway, back to it…

If you have time constraints and can’t use the helmet either way, then that’s ok -just realize that you aren’t using it in the ideal way.

You use the helmet three times a week with at least one day off in between, and you use it 20 minutes a time. The time and frequency are VERY IMPORTANT! As you know, LLLT success comes from hitting the “window of energy” -too little will cause a lack of results, and too much will cause a negation of results! That 20 minute time is calculated to be right in the heart of the window of energy, with a little leeway on each side to allow for different environmental conditions. Also, the reason you want a day off in between treatment sessions is that laser energy can “compound” if you don’t have a break. If you use it back to back to back, you run the risk of overstimulating the tissue because it hasn’t had time to fully recover!

Var i helvete kan man få tag i de substanser? jag använder min hjälm endast med emu olja nu och ibland ingenting

Ja, man kan väva in även de tre produkterna du nämner i behandlingen. Som alltid får man hålla ett litet öga på hur kroppen svarar.

erik_nitro wrote: Niacin betsäller du härifrån:http://purebulk.com/niacin-usp-powder.html

Polysorbate 80:http://www.amazon.com/MakingCosmetics-Inc-Polysorbate-80-4-2floz/dp/B005VEE0Y2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359914668&sr=8-1&keywords=Polysorbate+80

Där har du länk till de produkter man tydligen SKA använda sig av för bästa resultat enligt John då!

så du ska fortsätta med din emu olja men även lägga till dessa.

Men jag undrar om man även kan köra med revita,scalpure och priorin utan att de blir för mycket av de “goda”så att säga.

Tack för hjälpen men har försökt hitta i eu för att slippa tullavgiften